Tuesday, March 29, 2016

BH 2.8 Bald Hills William Carseldine - Fourth Settler in the District



Bald Hills was the home of several members of the Carseldine family, beginning with William and Mary Carseldine, and over the ensuing years, by numerous descendants.  William and his wife Mary arrived in Bald Hills on 31st May 1858


William Carseldine was listed as the owner of Lot 33, with Lot 36 with 48 acres of land.  The North Coast Highway passes directly over his lands.

From detailed research compiled from the Carseldine Family and prepared to mark the 125th Anniversary of their arrival in Bald Hills, prepared by Garth Carseldine and Dulcie McClure 
from information from the descendants,in 1983, and kindly 
shared by another of their descendants, Rob Carseldine


"In 1854, when William Carseldine, at the age of 38 years, last sighted English soil, he entered upon an experience which was the lot of few men.  He was not among the great and mighty at that period of his life.  He was at first a farm labourer, and later a farmer.  In the latter calling, unknown to  himself, he was qualifying for the pioneering work which was to write his name permanently in the annals of the country of his adoption.

A detailed account of his life would require more than could be contained in this booklet, which is intended to mark the one hundred and twenty-fifth anniversary of William's settling in Bald Hills.  The record that follows will, therefore, touch only on the principal facets of his life and those of his family.

William Carseldine was a native of Coppingford, a small town in Huntingdonshire, in the Fen Country of England, and Fox's History of Queensland, published in 1919 says:

The name of Carseldine is yet one to conjure with that part of England (Huntingdonshire) representing the fine old yeoman stock which may be termed the backbone of the British race.

It is surmised he chose to migrate to Australia because a close relative had previously gone to South Australia and had been reported favourably.

He came to Australia aboard the ship "Monsoon" and after a voyage lasting seven months, arrived in South Australia.   H intended to settle there, but a law of that Colony prevented this ambition.  As the South Australia Colony was to be the "land of the Gentry", it was necessary for labourer's families to have an equal number, or more, of daughters than sons, to ensure that land-owners would have maid servants in their homes.  As William Carseldine had only one daughter, as against three sons, he was forced to seek settlement in another colony.  At this time the gold rushes were in full swing, and it was probably this factor that made him choose the Moreton Bay district.

He arrived in Brisbane on 19th August, 1854, and his family lived in a house in Leichhardt Street, on the present site of Paul & Gray's bulk store, while he journeyed the district working as a farm labourer.

During the 'fifties the Moreton Bay district was suffering from a shortage of labour, brought about by the effects of the gold rushes in New South Wales and Victoria.  Although 1,199 migrant arrived on the "Monsoon", the "Genghis Khan" and the "General Hewitt", this did little to alleviate the position, and it was easy for William Carseldine to obtain work.  His journeys took him over a wide area - as far west as Dalby and as far north as Bundaberg.

Thomas Gray (Brisbane's bootmaker), contacted William Carseldine regarding a fencing contract for John Stewart at Bald Hills.  William was so taken with the locality that he gathered together his family and settled on a site in Attunga Street, near the Stewart's on 31st May 1858.

William Carseldine lived by a strong moral code, and it possible that in the Stewarts and the Duncans he found friends sharing his views on life, and this greatly influenced him.  Surely there must have been some reason other than the call of the land, since, during his tow and a half years of travel in the Moreton Bay district, he must have seen land more attractive than his own.

He was also noted for his forthrightness, and it was said of him by Mr Lang - another pioneer of Bald Hills - that he was the only man he knew who did not hesitate to call a spade a spade.

His interests in life did not finish with the six working days.  As a majority of the settlers in Bald Hills were of Scottish descent, the first lace of worship in Bald Hills was the Presbyterian Church and members of the Carseldine family were among its first and most regular supporters.

However, following a mission by the Wesleyans to Strathpine in the early days, the first Wesleyan Church was opened there, and William carseldine and his family switched their allegiance to that Church.

He later gave land for a Wesleyan Church in Bald hills, split the shingles for its roof, and regularly attended, being one of the first Trustees and Church Stewards.

Although William Carseldine could not read or write, he had a retentive memory.  When neighbours asked him to get their supplies, on his journeys to Brisbane to sell his produce, he memorised these requirements and not once did he forget any item, or get the supplies mixed.

It is also interesting to note that when he bought the land at Bald Hills, and went to the authorities to register the claim and pay for the land, he was asked how he spelled his name.  No0t knowing, he turned and asked his eldest son, Jonathan, who replied" "Carseldine".  It is believe that this is how the name came to be spelt in this manner, and not as "Castledine", as is usual in England.

William Carseldine's early up-bringing in the "Old Country" stood him in good stead.  The land at Bald Hills in some respects was similar to the Fen Country, in that it was fairly flat, and inclined to be boggy in the wet season.

William Carseldine knew how to work this type of soil and a large part of the present site of the township of Bald Hills was tilled and planted to maize and other crops.  He was a hard taskmaster, and worked himself long hours in the fields.

He imparted his knowledge to his sons, and it is not to be wondered that the majority of his descendants also were farmers.

A lover of nature, it was not long before William followed the English custom and planted an orchard around his house.  In addition, he was an avid bee-keeper, and a hive or two were always to be found near the orchard.

William Carseldine was a good family man.  He did not believe in wasting his money, but he always tried to help his sons.  He was devoted to his wife and children and assisted his sons in establishing themselves, either on the land or in business.

When his youngest son was married, they lived together on the old farm, but the partnership was soon to be broken when William's wife, Mary passed away in 1880.

Feeling that, at his age, he might be a burden on his son and family, William moved to a little two roomed shack between James Carseldine's store and the Methodist Church.

In 1884 he married, for the second time, taking as wife Mrs Kindrick, a widow.

I 1885 the cold winter told on his health and, during the following winter, he was called to rest, having lived a life full of useful service to his fellow men.

His body is buried in the Bald Hills Cemetery.


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William Carseldine was the son of William Carseldine and his wife Sarah Morrison.

 He was born William Castledine, on 4th February 1816, and was baptised at Saint Mary's Wesleyan, Huntingdon Circuit, Huntingdon in England.

He married Mary Ann Gale in 1840 in Northamptonshire.  Mary Ann was the daughter of Jonathan Gale and Ann Wharpole, and was born 1812 in Elton, England..     She died 13 September 1880

The marriage certificate records his name as William Casseldine.


While previous research mentions the arrival in South Australia, and the subsequent rules of the colony which were in existence, the "Monsoon" was en-route for Queensland.  It is believed an error in navigation and or orders to the captain, saw the ship land firstly in South Australia.



Select SurnameFirstnameAgeShipYearArrivingRemarksCopy
CASSELDINEGeorge6Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467
CASSELDINEHarriett2Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467
CASSELDINEJames10Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467
CASSELDINEJonathan12Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467
CASSELDINEMary Ann42Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467
CASSELDINEWilliam38Monsoon1854Moreton Bayand familyReels 2137, 2467





VESSELS EXPECTED IN SYDNEY. FROM LONDON.
The Shipping Gazette and Sydney General Trade List (NSW : 1844 - 1860) Monday 14 August 1854 p 148 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides




... Elizabeth, 496 tonE. Monsoon, Marcu Jacoba

The Monsoon carried 394 Government immigrants, almost all were employed quickly, as was the agreement of the Government Immigration Scheme.  They had to work for 2 years with the employer.




IPSWICH CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH. (From a Correspondent.)
The Moreton Bay Courier (Brisbane, Qld. : 1846 - 1861) Saturday 26 August 1854 p 2 Article




... of the immigrants by the Monsoon (394 men, women, and children) and 115 men, women, and children by





He arrived in 1854, on the Monsoon, the same ship as many of the other settlers selected for the  immigrationsschemes often by Dr John Lang.

The ship arrived on 13 August 1854, to South Australia, then to Sydney and Queensland, on 17 August 1854

It was one of the ships in the Black Ball Line referred to previously.
There may have been miscommunication and the ship initially arrived in South Australia, before sailing again to arrive 4 days later in New South Wales.


The "Monsoon" struck bad weather after leaving Liverpool.

William was listed as a labourer, and aged 38, his wife Mary Ann was aged 42, the children were Jonathan, James George,  and Harriett, aged 2

Joseph was born in Australia.

He purchased land in 1858, and is recorded as 58/300 of the New South Wales, Land Register for lands County Stanley Parish Nundah.  He paid Forty Eight Pounds, for forty eight acres.

The size of the land grant was calculated under the rules of the Immigration Scheme, and based on so many acres per settler, with additional for his family members.


His land grant:


Children
Jonathan               b  1842    m  Mary Wood Buckby  1860   He  died 1932  Mary 1922
James                   b 1844     m  Janet Amelia Cameron   1867   He died 1902 Janet d. 1907
George                 b  1848    m  Bridget Sweeney  1871  2. Isabella Cochrane 1879   He died 1896
Eliza                    b  1850               died  1852
Harriet                 b  1853    m  Richard Raymond   1873
Joseph                  b  1855    m   Sarah Agnes Prothero    1877     1919





William was a farmer, and according to research prepared by Garth Carseldine, and presented in a booklet for the Centenary of Bald Hills in 1957, William arrived in Queensland in 1857.

The family were from Huntingdonshire in the Fen Country of England.  Garth mentions that "he came to Bald Hills as a fencing contractor to John Stewart, and was so taken with the land that he settled there on 30th May 1858.  He told a shipboard friend by the name of George Buckby about Bald Hills and he selected land in 1859 at Bald Hills.

It was Thomas Gray who told William Carseldine of the prospects at Bald Hills, when the latter came to him to discuss a pair of boots".



Bald Hills Report

I naive, I am sorry to say, a few mishaps to chronicle.  As Shakespeare has it, one was treading upon another's boots.  First, one of Mr Stone's drivers met with a severe accident.  He jumped off the waggon to look to the traces of one of the horses, and as he walked up the horse made a bound, and the front of the spreader caught him under the knee, puncturing the flesh to the depth of half an inch.

This threw him on his back and the wheel on which 10 tons was partly resting, went over the heel of his boot wrenching the boot completely off and causing a skin wound obliquely across the ankle, 4 inches in length.  Mr Carseldine, sen, although his years number threescore and ten, was the first to the front with a cart to convey the wounded man to the hospital.  He certainly deserves praise for his plucky conduct.

Three hours after the above occurred Mr Andrew Wyllie of the South Pine, had three of his fingers nearly severed with the knives of the chaff cutter.

I have also to report the death of one of the most esteemed ladies of ur district, Mrs Ridley, who died quite unexpectedly, leaving a large family to deplore their loss. Much sympathy is felt for Mr Ridley.

.....He continues to report about the builders at the school, and that Mr Ferguson had passed the work himself.


In 1881 he remarried Elizabeth Kendrick, a widower.  Elizabeth died in 1907.

William was an active member of the Nundah Divisional Board which was charged with the management of the district from 1879, and he retired in 1880.  He died in 1886, and his three sons, John, Jonathan and James, and John Stewart were the beneficiaries.

Mary Carseldine died in 1880 and is buried at Bald Hills/Sandgate Cemetery

 
 
 Of his sons, both James and William lived and farmed in Bald Hills.




Probates and Administrations.
The Telegraph (Brisbane, Qld. : 1872 - 1947) Thursday 19 August 1886 p 4 Detailed Lists, Results, Guides



... , to John Stewart, of Bald Hills, Jonathan Carseldine, of Caboolture, and James Carseldine, of Bald ... , to George Grimes, of Brisbane, gentleman ; personalty £50. William Carseldine, of Bald Hills, farmer .

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PINE RIVERS DISTRICT

PIONEERS.  

In the article on the Pine Rivers district, published in the "Courier"last Saturday, mention, was made of some of the well-known family names. The list, of course, did not purport to be complete. 

One prominent name not included at the time is that of Carseldine, and a correspondent writes: -Mr. Wm. Carseldine settled at Bald Hills in 1857, having been preceded by Messrs. Stewart and Duncan by a few months.

A few years afterwards the Lang, Simpson, and Hawkin families settled in the district. Mr. James Carseldine conducted the only store and post office for many years prior to his death in 1902.

Mr. Joseph Carseldine carried on mixed farming and dairying. Of his family of 10 children eight now are living, and five Mrs. Carseldines, including Mrs. Joseph Carseldine, now reside at Bald Hills. 

Three of the sons served in the Great War, and one of them made the supreme sacrifice at Gallipoli.

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His family

Jonathan Carseldine 


Compiled from the family papers:


When Jonathan Carseldine arrived in 1854, he was aged 12 years, and he was employed by Patrick Mayne for two year.  (Patrick Mayne had a rather dubious past)  He then worked for a chemist by the name of Davis, in Queen Street, before the family purchased the land at Bald Hills.

While his father helped the Stewarts and the Duncans clear a track over one of the creeks on the way to Zillman's Water Hole, (now Zillmere), he followed a cattle route through Adsett's property (Chermside) and blazed a track to Kedron Brook.  This track is now the Gympie Road.  Later he took a position with Mr. Jones, owner of Baramba Station, on the Upper Burnett.

In 1861 he married Mary Buckby, the daughter of another early settler in Bald Hills, and took up a property at Sideling Creek, on the Dayboro-Petrie Road.  He next purchased "Caboolture Station", a freehold of 160 acres, from the Blundel Brothers.

As Settlement came to the Caboolture district, he eventually selected a freehold of 1,300 acres in the Upper Caboolture area, which was named "Gregorsford".  He was instrumental in establishing the Camp Flat School, outside Caboolture.

Jonathan was one of the first members of the caboolture Divisional Board, which was to become the Caboolture Shire Council.  In his early twenties he was made a Justice of the Peace - a position which in those early days, involved a considerable amount of travel and responsibility, and at his death he had been a J.P. longer than any other person in Queensland


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Passing of the Pioneers.

Mr. Jonathan Carseldine.

THE death occurred on January 15 of one of the best known identities of the Bald Hills district, in the person of Mr Jonathan Carseldine, who would have attained his 90th birthday in another six days.

The late Mr. Carseldine was born at Huntingford, England, and arrived in Australia in the sailing ship Monsoon 77 years ago. On the same vessel was Miss Mary Wood Buckby, who later became Mrs. Carseldine, and she predeceased her husband about six years ago.

As a boy Mr. Carseldine became associated with the butchering business, and later invested in land at Redcliffe,   Petrie and Caboolture, and by his industry and zeal developed into one of the leading dairymen of Queensland.

 He is survived by five daughters, Mesdames G. A. Atthow (Eagle Junction,). W. Bleakley (Wilston), A. T. Kniven (Woodford); T. M'Cosker (Glasshouse Mountain), J. Williamson (Colinton), and seven sons, Messrs. David John, Eli James (New Zealand), Francis Dale, Herbert (Woodford) J. W., Julian (Miriam Vale), and Noel Jeff (Thursday Island).



Death of Mary Wood Carseldine, wife of Jonathan.


MRS. CARSELDINE. _

The death on 21st January ol Mrs, Jonathan Carseldine at  Ridge street, Northgate Junction, removes another of the pioneers of Queensland.

Born at Cranford, St. Andrew's, Northamptonshire, on 7th January, 1843, Mary Wood Buckly came to Queensland in 1854, at the age of 11 years, with her father, sister, and brothers.

The family first settled in-the district now known as Hendra. shortly afterwards. removing to Bald Hills. Miss Buckly in 1861, when  17 years of age, was married to Mr. Jonathan Carseldine by the Rev. John Moselay in.old St. John's pro-Cathedral.

For many years Mr. and Mrs. Carseldine lived in the Caboolture district, where they were engaged in the dairying industry. At the time of the Gympie gold rush in 1868.

Mrs. Carseldine had many interesting experiences, which resulted from their. residence being situated on the old main road between Brisbane and Gympie. Although not a nurse by profession, the common sense and practical, kindliness oi Mrs. Carseldine made her services in much demand in a district in which. medical attendance was difficult to obtain, and in addition to the onerous duties of bringing up a large family the deceased lady was noted far and wide for her hospitality. Of a deeply religious disposition, she won the. affection and esteem of all with whom she came in contact.

The last 16. years of her life were spent at Northgate Junction, and in spite of the loss of her sight some years ago she maintained her cheerfulness and courage. Up to within six  weeks of her death, which-occurred towards the end.of last month, she retained her intellectual faculties.

The late Mrs. Carseldine was the mother of 14 children, two of whom - died in infancy, Her descendants include over  80 grandchildren and 30 great-grandchildren. Her five daughters are Mesdames G. A. Atthow (Clayfield)  J, W. Bleakly (Wilston), F. Renuin  (Woodford), T. M'Cosker (Peachestar). and J. Williamson (Moore), and  her , sevensons are- Messrs:' Charles (Kilkoy). Dayid John (Linville), Eli James (New Zealand), Francis (Darra), Herbert (Woodford), Julian (Caboolture), and Noel (Cairns). ,Four of the sons, like their father, are justices of the Peace, and all except the youngest, are on the land.

During the past six months the late Mrs. Carseldine was visited by every member of her family, except one son, who resides in North Queensland, and was unable to make- the journey.

One son came from New Zealand to visit his parent. The funeral took place at the Lutwyche cemetery, the Rev. W. Powell, a very old friend of the family, officiating at the  grave.

THE CARSELDINE FAMILY, WITH THE LATE MRS. CARSELDINE (THIRD FIGURE

IN .FRONT ROW).


Mary was born around 1843, the daughter of John Buckby and Mary Wood.  She arrived in 1854 on the Monsoon, with her father, John who was listed as a labourer, and her sister.

*Her surname was Buckby,    Jonathan Carseldine  m Mary Wood Buckby  1860

Their Children included, and the children were all named alphabetically, (A - N)




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James Carseldine

James worked on th farm with his parents, and in 1865, when he attended a Ball at the Stewart's Barn to celebrate the opening of the first bridge over the South Pine River, he met Janet Amelia Cameron, who was to be his future wife.  They married in 1867 and had 14 children.

In 1869 he opened the first shopin Bald Hills and later became the first Postmaster and Newsagent, and later held the important position of Registrar of Births Marriages and Deaths for the district.

James donated the land on which the present Methodist Church stands, and held the positions of Church Steward, Local Preacher, and Sunday School Superintendent.

A beautiful window was placed in the Church as a Memorial to his many good works.

In 1864 James Carseldine purchased Lot 51.







LAND SALE.
The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) Thursday 1 December 1864 p 2 Article







... 20 3 1 R Cubb 8 2 32 J Carseldine It 1 O R Cubb

In 1867 he married Janet Amelia Cameron, the daughter of Archibald Cameron who owned the block of land opposite William Senior's property.

In 1869, James was advertising the land to be used for grazing.  Apply to himself, or to Mr Cameron who lived in the Valley.





He later purchased Lot 1 of portion 124a with 12 acres.


James was the Post Master, and was appointed the Assistant Manager for Births Marriages and Deaths in Bald Hills.

 (Interesting information, which indicates that registrations were done at POs)


Arthur Edwin Carseldine  b 1887  son of James and Jane  died  1908

In 1892, he won a place at a Grammar School


James opened the very first shop in Bald Hills Road and ran the Post Office from the premises.  The buildings are still there.


Compare the Two!  With a bit of help from Google and a different angle, two houses, two shops, home to a variety of different trades, I remember a butcher shop (Lanes) and the electrical shop.












Mr  Carseldine later operated this shop in Gympie Road Carseldine.  Cobb and Co used to stop there,  and this is the very same shop that Dale and Ethel Herron owned in 1950's







  



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George Carseldine

George was only 4 years old when his parents migrate, he lived with his parents until he took a position with the Railway, and was later transferred to Toowoomba where he became the Foreman in the Goods Shed.  Later he went into business as a General Carrier and word up a good connection.

He was noted throughout the town of Toowoomba as one of its hardest workers, and from the early hours in the morning until late at night, in all weathers, he could be seen hard at work.

It was this hard work that brought about his unexpected death in 1896, the mid-winter turning a cold into "inflammation of the lungs".

Married twice, he had a son by his first wife, and when she died, a family of seven children with his second wife.


Death of Mr. George Carseldine.
Toowoomba Chronicle and Darling Downs General Advertiser (Qld. : 1875 - 1902) Tuesday 14 July 1896 p 3 Article


... Death of Mr. George Carseldine. Much icgrct was evinced throughout tho town on Siiturdiiy whin it ..
Death of Mr. George Carseldine.

One of the best known men about town, Mr George Carseldine, died early on Saturday morning from an attack of pneumonia.Some Some days since he contracted a very severe cold, but being naturally of a very robust   constitution he made light of it and refused   to consider it serious. On Wednesday night,

however, he was compelled to take to his bed, and medical assistance being summoned he was found to be suffering from a   severe attack of inflammation of the lungs. Despite the unremitting attention of Dr Garde the malady which was already too firmly seated, gained ground rapidly and Mr Carseldine passed away shortly after mid-night on Friday. The deceased was a thoroughly upright man, perfectly conscientious in all his undertakings, and gained the respect and the goodwill of all with whom he came into contact.

Many years ago he  occupied the position of foreman in the Rail-way Goods Shed, but left that position to take up the avocation of a general carrier, and by his promptness, reliability and civility estab lished a good connection. His funeral took place yesterday afternoon at three o'clock and the large concourse of people who   gathered together to follow his remains to their last resting place testified to the esteem in which he was held. The brethren of the Protestant Alliance and Masonic Lodges  with which he was connected took part in the funeral procession. The coffin which was covered with a number of beautiful  wreaths was borne from the house to the hearse by six Past Masters of the Darling Downs Masonic Lodge No. 775 S.C., with which the deceased was long connected, as well as with the Southern Cross Lodge E.C.

The bretheren of the Protestant Alliance Societies marched in front of the hearse to the Cemetery gates, where the Masonic Lodges also formed in procession. At the grave the burial services as prescribed by the Presbyterian Church were performed by the Rev James Crookston, who afterwards
conducted the solemn burial rites of the Masonic Order, during which the hymn commencing 'Peacefully lay him down to   rest' was sung by the brethren present.

Mr Carseldine was, twice married, the issue of the first wife being one son who is now grown up and settled in life, in addition to whom he leaves a widow and family of six young children, mostly girls, the eldest of whom is not more than about fifteen years of age.

The death of Mr Carseldine was so sudden and unexpected that the widows is quite prostrated with the shock. In their deep sorrow the bereaved family have the sympathy of all who knew and esteemed the husband and father for his undeviating uprightness and honesty.


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Harriett Careldine


Harriett was the only daughter, she was two years old when they left England, and the suffered health wise on the sea voyage.

She grew up on the farm and was noted as a fearless and most capable horsewoman.  Her ability with a shot gun and she was notorious for her marksmanship.

Richard Raymont, of North Pine, was a frequent caller at her father's shop and it was here he met Harriett.  They married at the age of 21 and lived on "Devonia" a property on the North Pine River where they ran dairying and mixed farming.

A close fried and neighbour was Agnes Protheroe, who later married Harriett's brother Joseph.

Harriett continued her interest in the Methodist Church, and though she could not read or write had an ability for remembering dates.

She had a family of seven sons and two daughters, all of whom lived the land, and the majority settled in the Lockyer district.

She died in 1931 and he husband had died in 1910.


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Joseph Carseldine




Joseph was born in Brisbane, when the family were living in Leichhardt Street.  As a youth, working on the farm he dug the first well in Bald Hills, and together with three wells on adjacent properties supplied Bald Hills and Sandgate with water in the droughts of 1902 and 1919.

Being the youngest of the family Joseph had to stay on the farm with his parents.  He married Sarah Agnes Protheroe of North Pine and they lived in the old home, raising a family of six sons and four daughters.

Joseph was also involved in the Methodist Church, being a Trustee and the Secretary.  This fact is a tribute to the character and determination of Joseph, as he had only three months schooling in his life; despite this, he later became an ardent reader and could also write reasonably well.

He suffered ill health, and died aged 63.


Joseph Carseldine married Sarah Agnes Prothero in 1877 and he died in 1919












Their Children:

Alice Louisa  Carseldine              1878
Arthur Wesley Carseldine            1880     m  Ethel Grace Tucker   1902            d  1965
*Harold Edwin Carseldine           1881           d  1915
Laura May   Carseldine               1882
*George William  Carseldine       1883         m Emma Kate Pitney  1924   d   1937
Ethel Gertrude Carseldine            1886
Percy James Carseldine               1889        m  Frances Matilda Hamilton  d   1964
Vernon David  Carseldine            1896           d  1920
Ivy Beatrice Carseldine               1898


In 1889, Joseph along with a lot of other Bald Hills residents appealed the rise in the valuation of their lands.

At the City Police Court yesterday, before Mr. G. P. M. Murray, P.M., an appeal court
against assessment for the Division of Nundah was held, when the following reductions in
valuations were made :


John Ward, 40a., reduced from £30 to £25 per acre ; James Carseldine, 116a., reduced from £15 to £10 per  acre; Joseph Carseldine, 47a., reduced from £18 to £13 per acre ; Thomas Ridley, 48a.,
reduced from £15 to £12 per aore ; Mathew Ridley, 40a., reduced from £16 to £12 per acre; Samuel Lang, 25a. 2r., reduced from £26 to £20 per acre; same, 15a. 5r. 22p., reduced from £20 to £15 per acre; John Stone, 19a. 3r. 10p., reduced from £60 to £45 per aore; same, 107 acres, reduced from £20 to £15 per acre; O. Cameron, 29a. 3r. 30p., reduced from £26 to £20 per acre ;

 Mesdames Conlan, Griffen, and Murphy, 596a., reduced from £20 to £15 per aore ; Henry Fenneriel,
70a., reduced from £10 to £S per acre ; same, 40a., reduced from £15 to £14 per aero ; Mrs.
M. Graham, 46a., reduced from £15 to £8 per acre. In a number of other cases the valuations were confirmed.



By now there are a lot of names of other residents appearing in different stories.


After his death, his family included on the headstone at Bald Hills Cemetery, a memorial to his two sons who died, one in World War I and the other Vernon David Carseldine  in a tragic boating accident in the Bribie Passage.


Previously published information about these two sons who have their names on the memorial, is incorrect.  





Joseph Carseldine died 1915

MR. JOSEPH CARSELDINE There passed away at his home, Laidley, North, early on Tuesday morning, July 21st, a highly respected resident in the person of Mr. Joseph Carseldine. He had been suffering for some time from an internal complaint, and despite   all that medical skill and devoted nursing could do, he gradually sank, and died.

The deceased gentleman was 61 years of age, and leaves a widow and large family (all of whom were with  him at the last). He was buried in the Laidley cemetery, the remains being followed to their last resting place by a very large number of sympathising friends and neighbours.

The Rev. J. R. Williams, of the Methodist Church, officiated at the graveside, and Mrs. M. E. M'Dermott carried out the funeral arrangements.






HEROES OF THE DARDANELLES. PERSONAL NOTES.   

Mr and Mrs Joseph Carseldine of Bald Hills, have received news that their fourth son Private Harold Edwin Carseldine 37th lnfantry Battalion was killed in action on October 8.

 Private Carseldine was well known in the Maleny and Kilcoy districts, where for some years he was engaged in the butter industry. Nearly three years ago having an inclination for mission work he went to Adelaide and entered Angus College to prepare himself for the work. 

He had just completed two years' study last March when he enlisted for active service with the South Australian unit

Harold Edwin Carseldine   b  1892  died  1915 Gallipoli   Turkey

Pvt Harold Edwin Carseldine
Birth Date:28 Nov 1891
Birth Place:Queensland, Australia
Death Date:8 Oct 1915
Death Place:Gallipoli, Canakkale, Turkey
Cemetery:Lone Pine Cemetery, Anzac
Burial or Cremation Place:Gallipoli, Canakkale, Turkey

Birth: Nov. 28, 1891
Bald Hills
Brisbane City
Queensland, Australia
Death: Oct. 8, 1915
Gallipoli
Canakkale, Turkey

Son of Joseph & Sarah Agnes (nee Protheroe) Carseldine. Harold died of wounds received in action, aged 23 years.


Born 28 November 1891    27th Australian Infantry Battalion

Like so many thousands of others, his body was not found.  In 1919 there was a Burial party that returned to find the remains and dogtags.

The worst part of never finding a body was then the delay in obtaining a death certificate.
Before one could be issued, the Red Cross were required to conduct interviews with others who may have been there.  After the evidence was collected it was presented to a Tribunal.


Burial:
Lone Pine Cemetery, Anzac
Gallipoli
Canakkale, Turkey
Plot: Final resting place unknown. Name listed on Panel 67 of the Memorial.

Name:Joseph Carseldine
Birth Date:13 Oct 1855
Birth Place:Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Death Date:5 Jun 1919
Death Place:Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Cemetery:Bald Hills Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:Brisbane, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia

Name:Sarah Agnes Carseldine
Birth Date:13 Mar 1856
Birth Place:Llangynwyd, Bridgend, Wales
Death Date:16 Aug 1929
Death Place:Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Cemetery:Bald Hills Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:Brisbane, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia

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THREE MEN DROWNED.

TRIPLE SURFING FATALITY

ACCIDENT AT BRIBIE.

Word was received in Brisbane last evening of a triple drowning accident on the main beach at Bribie Island, the victims being Eric Beer, aged 19 years. (Bald Hills), Vernon David Castledine, 23 years (Strathpine), and Wallace   McCallum, 19 years (of Ashfield, Sydney)

The meagre particulars so far available are to the edect that a party of nine men, who intended to spend the holidays in the Bay, landed in Bribie Passage, at a spot about two miles from Caloundra, and crossed the island to the main beach, where they went in surfing. Three of the party, however, were soon in difficulties, and were drowned. Another report of the tragedy is that the men were on the outer beach gathering worms for bait, when they were overwhelmed by the waves which were running very high

According to the report received by the police a party of nine men left Bald Hills, for the Bribie Passage, being accommodated on the motor launch Sylvie. When they arrived at the "Big Hole" in Bribie Passage they anchored, and six of the holiday makers went to the main beach for a bathe.

Three of the men, however, soon got into difficulties, and were drowned. Up to last evening the   bodies hid not been recovered Constable McLauchlan left Caloundra last night with a party to search for the bodies. Another constable, with two horses, will go over from the main land this morning crossing over at low tide at a spot about seven or eight miles from Caloundra

Carseldine Vernon Memorial   



Bribie Tragedy Memorial.  

A number of the relatives and friends of the victims of the recent drowning accident at Bribie Island assembled on Bribie beach on Sunday, when a memorial tablet of brass, affixed to a wooden cross, was unveiled and a service held.

The tablet bears the following inscription:-"This cross is erected by members of the crew of the Sylvie in loving memory of their comrades-

Vernon David Carseldine 23 years; George Wallace McCallum 20 years; Eric Charles Beer 19 years-who were carried out to sea whilst bathing opposite this spot on April 2, 1920.

Crossed the bar." A number of Bald Hills residents were present,some having travelled by train to   Landsborough, thence, by motor. The crew of the Sylvie and friends, who arrived in Mr. Trunk Gordon's motor boat, and Caloundra residents, were also present.

Members of the Sylvie's crew conducted the service, and Mr J Stewart (an old resident of Bald Hills) unveiled the tablet, and referred to the high character and fine dispositions of the deceased. The Rev. D. Fletcher (Wonder delivered an address, and one was also read from the Rev. A. Wood (Bald Hills), who was unable to be present

The relatives present included Mrs. J Carseldine (Fairfield, Bald Hills), Mr. and Mrs A. D. McCallum (Ashfield, Sydney), Mr. and Mrs. Reg. Beer, Miss C Beer. The tablet is not only intended as a memorial, but as a warning of the danger incurred in bathing at that spot.

Vernon David Carseldine, 23 years, George Wallace Mc Callum, 20 years 

and Eric Charles Beer, aged 19 years tragically drowned at sea.

The signs wording continues, 'They were carried out to sea whilst bathing opposite this spot on April 2, 1920, 'crossing the bar.' The bar meaning the northern end of Bribie Island where Pumicestone Passage flows out to sea opposite the town of Caloundra. Their bodies were never recovered.


Edwim Charles Beer was the son of William Beer and Emily Jane White and was born in 1901.


George W Mccallum was the son of Archibald D Mccallum and Katherine, he was born in 1900 in Bowral New South Wales.




Both the Beer Family and the McCallum Family had relationship links with the Carseldine Family

Joseph Carseldine died in 1919

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Joseph's son Arthur Wesley Carseldine and Alfred Stewart son of John Stewart, married sisters in a double wedding service.




WEDDING.

Stewart-Tucker. Carseldine-Tucker.

A very pretty double wedding was celebrated at North Pine on Wednesday, 18th June, when the

Misses Rosamond (Rose) and Ethel Tucker,  

daughters of Mr Ambrose Tucker, of North Pine,  were married respectively to Mr Alfred Stewart and Mr Arthur W. Carseldine. Mr A. Stewart is the youngest son of Mr John Stewart, the pioneer of Bald Hills; and Mr A.W. Carseldine is the eldest son of Mr Joseph Carseldine, another very old resident of the same place. The event caused   quite a sensation in the district. 

The ceremony took place in the Methodist Church grounds (the church being, too small to contain the large number of guests and spectators) and was performed  by the Revs. James Stewart and A. Taylor. 

The   two brides, who were given away by their father, were dressed alike in costumes of white grass lawn, trimmed with chiffon and orange blossoms. Both wore tulle veils and sprays of orange blossoms, Miss Ethel Tucker's veil having been worn previously by three other brides. 

Both carried   beautiful shower bouquets, the gifts of the   respective bridegrooms. The Misses Kate Tucker, Maud Stewart, Evelyn Stewart, and Violet Carseldine were bridesmaids to Miss Rose Tucker;   and Misses Edith Tucker, Alice Carseldine, Nellie Stewart and Ivy Carseldine filled the same office   for Miss Ethel Tucker. The Misses K. Tucker and  A Carseldine wore cream striped voile, trimmed with blue; and the Misses E. Tucker and M. Stewart wore similar dresses, trimmed with pink.

Each carried a bouquet. All wore straw hats trimmed with chiffon, and flowers to match the   colours of their dresses. The four little bridesmaids were dressed in cream, with hats to match and   carried beautifully arranged baskets of flowers.   The bridesmaids' bouquets and baskets were   all the work of Mr. G.W. Carseldine. 

For Mr. Stewart, Mr. John Tucker acted as best man, and Mr. C. Stewart as groomsman; while for Mr. Carseldine Mr H. Tucker was best man, and Mr H.J. Atthow groomsman. After the ceremony   the guests adjourned to the local School  of Arts, where the bridal party was photographed, and about 130 guests were present at a breakfast  provided by Mr. and Mrs. Tucker. 
The toast list was a lengthy one. In the evening both couples left for Humpybong, where the honeymoon will be spent. The guests spent a very pleasant evening, at the School of Arts. Both brides received many handsome and useful presents, and each received  a sewing machine and several household  articles from her mother. The brides' dresses and several of the bridesmaids' costumes were made by Miss Stewart, dressmaker, Main-street Kangaroo Point.


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A JUBILEE CELEBRATION.

Last Saturday afternoon the members of the Carseldine families (post office and Fairfield), Bald Hills, entertained a large number of the old pioneers of the Bald Hills district, and friends, at a social gathering at Fairfield to celebrate the completion of the first half century of the residence of the family at Bald Hills, the late Mr. Wm. Carseldine having settled there on May 31, 1858.

 The guests spent a pleasant afternoon, during which short speeches, dealing with the hardships, struggles, and triumphs of pioneering days were given by Messrs. R. Sumner, M.L.A., Jonathan Carseldine, J. J. Gee, S. Lang, and A. W. Carseldine. A pretty exhibition of club swinging was given by Miss Dora Wright, which, with musical items, and afternoon tea, helped to pass a pleasant time. A happy coincidence of the gathering was that the first couple married on the Bald Hills were present—

Mr. and Mrs. Jonathan Carseldine (late of Gregorsford, Upper  Caboolture, and now of Northgate Junction)—who were married forty-eight years ago.

The pioneers present included Mr.  and Mrs. Jonathan Carseldine, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Carseldine, Mr. and Mrs. W. Buckley, Mr. and Mrs. J. Stewart, Mr. and Mrs. S. Simpson, Mr. and Mrs. S. Lang, Mr. W. Hawkins, senr., Mr. and Mrs. A. Tucker. Mrs. S. Brown, and Mrs. M'Pherson. senr.

Others present included Mr. R. Sumner, M.L.A., and Mrs. Sumner, Mr. and Mrs. Chas. Carseldine (Kilcoy), Mr. and Mrs. A. W. Carseldine, Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Carseldine. Mrs. A. Unwin (Durundur), Mr., and Mrs. S. J. Lang, Mr. and Mrs. Hamilton, Mrs. J. Neville, Miss, E. and Mr. J. Neville, Mrs. W. Neville. Miss M'Pherson, Mr. and Mrs. A. M'Pherson, Mr. and Mrs. J. Gee, Mrs. J. J. Gee, Mr. and Mrs. S. Unwin, Mr. and Mrs. B. Unwin, Mr. and Mrs. Gavin Arthur, Mr. and Mrs. Robert Arthur, Rev. T. Powell and Miss Powell, Mr. and Mrs. G. Culliemore, Mr. and Mrs. H. Day. Mrs. Chas. Day, Mr. and Mrs. H. Fererriegel, Mrs. T.Protheroe, Mrs. W. Young, Mrs. J. Young, Mrs. J. B. Young, Mr. and Mrs. M. Young, Mrs. S. J. Johnston, Mr. Alan Fielding, Miss Robbins, and Mr. P. J. Williams. In the evening a large number of young people were entertained with music and games.

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Remembering the Anzacs, 

William Carseldine's descendants contributed to both World Wars


World War I





  • CARSELDINE, Duncan Stewart Service number Q228131, Lance Corporal, Born 27 Dec 1894
  • CARSELDINE, Edmund Joseph Service number Q200144, Captain, Born 29 Dec 1893
  • CARSELDINE, Edwin David Service number Q205546, W.Officer Class 2, Born 12 Sep 1896


  • World War II





  • CARSELDINE, Alexander   Service number Q201455, Private, Born 19 Feb 1912
  • CARSELDINE, David Service number QX13583, Born 10 Mar 1918
  • CARSELDINE, David Charles Service number Q205470, Private, Born 17 Apr 1922
  • CARSELDINE, Doris Constance Service number Q70232, Lieutenant, Born 27 Jun 1915
  • CARSELDINE, Effie Mary Service number QX25356, Lieutenant, Born 25 Jul 1913
  • CARSELDINE, Frank Service number QX39180, Trooper, Born 11 Mar 1910
  • CARSELDINE, Gerard Victor Service number Q228165, Private, Born 16 Dec 1902
  • CARSELDINE, Harold Service number Q119031, Private, Born 4 Aug 1911
  • CARSELDINE, Harold Edward Service number QX25437, Born 19 Nov 1915
  • CARSELDINE, Hugh James Service number Q202300, Private, Born 26 Jul 1926
  • CARSELDINE, Kevin Service number Q201146, Private, Born 16 Aug 1924
  • CARSELDINE, Lionel Garth Service number Q100954, Corporal, Born 31 May 1922
  • CARSELDINE, Owen Service number Q201147, Private, Born 18 Dec 1921
  • CARSELDINE, Roy Gordon Service number Q140881, Driver, Born 8 Feb 1901
  • CARSELDINE, Stanley Vernon Service number Q228166, Private, Born 21 Feb 1905







  • CARSELDINE, Stratford Mervyn Service number Q227868, Private, Born 11 Oct 1909             
  • CARSELDINE, Thomas Service number QX13582, Born 12 May 1901







  • CARSELDINE, Vernon Wallace Hector Service number QX19683, Lance Sgt, Born 5 Jun 1920             



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    Joseph Carseldine's sons

      Their son George William Carseldine, served in World War I and returned to marry and raise a family.  His contribution to later life in Bald Hills is very interesting to read.

    Their son Arthur Wesley Carseldine also contributed greatly to the later years of Bald Hills.

    One of Joseph Carseldine's great grand-daughters along with another group of friends, have for years spent many Sundays cleaning up the graves at Bald Hills/Sandgate Cemetery.  She was upset to read some  mis-information in a printed story, in regards to her relatives, especially as they had such a long involvement with the local area, being among one of the first settlers.

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    Perhaps this is a bit of a "Slap in the Face"  


    P.O.W. Fined £10   Over Jap Pistol

    Donald Joseph Carseldine, who for three and a half years was a prisoner in Japanese hands, was fined £10 yesterday for having had a Japanese pistol without a licence. Mr. Cameron. C.S.M. told Carseldine, who had five and a half years' service with the A.I.F.— five years overseas — that he would have to impose the minimum penalty, and order that the pistol be forfeited.

    Detective Senior Sergeant T. Lloyd said that on February 28 Carseldine left Brisbane for Wondai by service car. The car broke down near Nanango, and as the driver was doing repairs, he saw that Carseldine had a pistol. As Carseldine appeared to be under the influence of liquor he took it from him, and later handed it to the C.I.B. Carseldine told detectives that another soldier who got the pistol from the Japanese had given it to him, and he intended to keep it as a souvenir, Senior Sergeant Lloyd added. He had no ammunition. Mr. Cameron gave Carseldine a month to pay the fine.


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